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letters from the Mori Island principles

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in the 1967 merseyside UFO bulletin by

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Charles Lear throughout the history of

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flying saucers slash UFOs there have

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been characters that those being kind

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would describe as colorful and those

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being blunt would describe as liars

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hoaxers and con men one of these

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characters was Fred Chrisman who became

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famous slash Infamous due to his

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involvement in the Mori island case

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Chrisman was accused of hoaxing the case

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along with business partner Harold Dahl

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and the two confessed as much to an FBI

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agent who investigated due to the deaths

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of two Military Intelligence Officers

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associated with the case Chrisman faded

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from the public eye after this but

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showed up again on November 21 1968 when

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he was called to testify at the trial of

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Clay Shaw looking into the JFK

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assassination we have recently come

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across some correspondence between a UFO

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investigator Chrisman and Dahl in the

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pages of a 19 1969 edition of a British

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UFO magazine that may be of interest to

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our readers Chrisman seemed to be

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compelled to insert himself into the

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middle of a mystery in 1946 he wrote a

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letter to Amazing Stories editor Ray

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Palmer who had just brought the magazine

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a great deal of success with his

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promotion of the shaver mystery this got

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its name from stories written by Richard

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shaver about underground dwelling nerdu

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Wells called darrows who influenced us

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appear on the surface with mind control

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Rays Shavers seem to believe they were

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based on truth and Palmer might have as

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well but he definitely promoted them as

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such chrisman's letter was published in

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the June 1946 issue and it tells of

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Chrisman and the Buddy fighting darrows

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in a cave in Burma according to Cressman

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his buddy got a dime-sized hole in his

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bicep from Madero raygun Chrisman wrote

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another letter to Palmer in 1947 just

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after the Kenneth Arnold sighting in

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June of that year had came kicked off

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the whole flying disc craze Chrisman

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told Palmer that on Mori Island just off

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the coast of Tacoma Washington he had

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recovered some material from a desk

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Palmer had been in communication with

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Arnold regarding his sighting and

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arranged for him to fly Arnold was a

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Private Pilot to Tacoma to look into the

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story Palmer wired him two hundred

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dollars for his troubles and Arnold

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became the world's first privately

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funded Flying Saucer investigator the

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story that came out was that doll while

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in a boat belonging to him and Chrisman

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had seen six donut-shaped saucers near

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Mori Island one of them seemed to be

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having problems and it dumped hot debris

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that broke doll's son's arm and killed

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his dog Arnold found himself unsure of

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what to believe and called in the

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Military Intelligence Officers who

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looked into his case Lieutenant Frank M

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Brown and Captain William Davidson they

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weren't impressed and left but not

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before Christman and assisted they take

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some of the debris with them which he

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handed to them in a cornflakes box their

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plane crashed killing both of them and

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the headline the next day in the August

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hinted in Crash of army bomber at Kelso

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plane May hold flying disc secret Brown

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and Davidson's names appeared in the

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story before they were released to the

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press and the person most likely to have

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given the information to the paper was

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Chrisman Harold Dahl kept a low profile

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after that but Chrisman would

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occasionally speak as a lecturer on

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flying saucers and started hosting a

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political radio show on August 1st 1968

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for which he used the Alias John gold on

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July 23 1967 at a UFO convention in

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Seattle Washington unidentified aerial

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phenomena research organization director

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Gary Leslie met Chrisman and Chrisman

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gave him doll's address this led to a

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series of letters between the three of

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them that were published in the January

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Leslie wrote a letter to doll the next

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day asking if he could help him in

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getting the facts straight regarding the

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Maury island case he asked if doll would

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send him copies of the photos Chrisman

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had told Arnold that he'd taken photos

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of The Craft that appeared when he went

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to investigate but he never produced

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them send him a written testimony of the

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account as you remember it and contact

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Dr Chrisman Chrisman hadn't given him

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his address and get a written testimony

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from him finally he asked if the boat

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was intact or if the damage from the

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reigning debris was still visible Leslie

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got a letter back from Dahl dated August

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22nd 1967 informs Leslie that it has

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been his and chrisman's policy not to

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answer letters regarding the Maury

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island incident he complains about the

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treatment he and particularly Chrisman

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received at the hand of a disbelieving

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public he mentions however that with

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renewed interest in the case the public

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might not be quite so ready to laugh and

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call me US insane according to doll

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after Mori Island Chrisman returned to

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the Air Force to fight in Korea and

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finish his schooling after that as a

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psychologist he mentions a television

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show starring Ray thins called the

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Invaders that he swears is based on

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Christmas life he describes Christman as

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a serious investigator who has never

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sought publicity and has never used his

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knowledge of the saucer thing for

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personal gain and that he had contempt

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for those who did so that being said he

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wrote that he didn't know why Chrisman

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was speaking in Seattle and that when he

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asked Chrisman Chrisman replied that it

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was better he didn't know all the facts

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he mentions that Chrisman was scheduled

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to speak with a Dr Frank strangis in

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Omaha Nebraska and New York but that

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Chrisman didn't show up doll describes

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Chrisman as probably the most learned

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individual in this country in the

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general knowledge of UFOs and one of the

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few men that have studied the files of

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Project Blue Book according to him

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something changed for Lee after the

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Maury island incident and he had seen

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less and less of him over the years

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Leslie describes seven lines of the next

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paragraph as being obliterated as if by

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a sensor Daw answered his questions

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saying he would allow Leslie to have

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copies of the photos and that he would

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give him a written account only after

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Chrisman approved it he said he sent

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Leslie's address to Chrisman in New

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Orleans but that if Leslie receives an

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answer it will be a big change in his

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usual attitude he said he'd get a

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statement from his son that Chrisman

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would also have to approve that the boat

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was still intact and was sold years ago

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and that the damage was repaired but

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they had pictures of it researcher have

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looked in the chrisman's life and the

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Chrisman they found doesn't quite match

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up with the Chrisman presented by doll

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Adam go rightly summed up Christmas life

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and exploits as part 003 of his series

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the Raymond brochures files headlined

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flying saucer attack after summing up

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the Mori island incident he describes

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called back to active duty during the

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Korean war in 1951. he was assigned as a

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P-51 fighter pilot correctly cites

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researcher Mike Sylvester is coming up

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with the information that Chrisman had

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premonitions that he would be killed and

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got himself reassigned as a transport

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pilot he continued to suffer anxiety to

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the point where he was hospitalized in

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to abuse tranquilizers during this

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period Chrisman left the military in

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1953 and became a high school teacher in

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Elgin Oregon and a school superintendent

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in Huntington Oregon in 1958 he was

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arrested and charged with drunk driving

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and disorderly conduct and it was found

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that he was under the influence of

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barbiturates because of this he was

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fired from his job with the school

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system according to so Wester Chrisman

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made strange statements to the police

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including saying that he had a metal

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plate in his head that same year

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Chrisman became acquainted with Frank

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lecturers who could also be described as

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colorful Dr Frank straintius wrote a

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1967 book Stranger at the Pentagon in

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which he claimed to emit a Venetian

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Valiant Thor was offering advice to the

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Eisenhower Administration Ajo was a

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contactee who founded the Church of the

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new age and was involved with two saucer

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swindlers Otis T Carr and Reinhold

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Schmidt both of whom were convicted for

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saucer-related criminal activity korid

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claimed to have built a working Flying

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Saucer that that he and Ajo were

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supposed to Pilot but a demonstration

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failed AO was brought up in charges

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along with Carr but it was determined

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that he was just a dupe as for Christman

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using the title doctor and doll writing

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that Chrisman had finished his education

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in Psychology after the war there seems

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to be an explanation according to the

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Wikipedia entry on Cressman citing the

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November 6 1966 Washington Olympian has

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the source in November 1966 Chrisman

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founded the professional research Bureau

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with t Edward Beckham and siroba Bates

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seeking to conduct research and

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consultation within the fields of

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psychology public relations and

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criminology go rightly explains that

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Chrisman and Stranges ran a number of

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dicey diploma Mills so they perhaps

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bestowed the title of doctor on each

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other next week letters from Chrisman

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Charles Lear is the author of The Flying

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